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		<title>Comment on The Health Care Reform &#8220;Two-Step&#8221; by The Health Care Reform “Two-Step” – Part 2 « TopOfTheThread – it starts here…</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Health Care Reform “Two-Step” – Part 2 « TopOfTheThread – it starts here…</dc:creator>
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		<title>Comment on The Health Care Reform &#8220;Two-Step&#8221; by TopOfTheThread</title>
		<link>http://topofthethread.wordpress.com/2009/10/07/the-health-care-reform-two-step/#comment-1126</link>
		<dc:creator>TopOfTheThread</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Oct 2009 23:43:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mark Baird - 

Thanks for the additional comments.  You certainly have a lot to say.  

Quoting your reply... &quot;85 percent of Americans say we need some form of tort reform...&quot; and then you feel this opinion has a Chamber Of Commerce conspiracy theory behind it. So, you imply,  this dominant majority doesn&#039;t know what they are talking about. And then you say juries (of the same sample of people) DO get the awards right. Either the people are right or not.

Mark, thanks for the comments but I think you need to start your own blog.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mark Baird &#8211; </p>
<p>Thanks for the additional comments.  You certainly have a lot to say.  </p>
<p>Quoting your reply&#8230; &#8220;85 percent of Americans say we need some form of tort reform&#8230;&#8221; and then you feel this opinion has a Chamber Of Commerce conspiracy theory behind it. So, you imply,  this dominant majority doesn&#8217;t know what they are talking about. And then you say juries (of the same sample of people) DO get the awards right. Either the people are right or not.</p>
<p>Mark, thanks for the comments but I think you need to start your own blog.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Health Care Reform &#8220;Two-Step&#8221; by TopOfTheThread</title>
		<link>http://topofthethread.wordpress.com/2009/10/07/the-health-care-reform-two-step/#comment-1122</link>
		<dc:creator>TopOfTheThread</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Oct 2009 11:02:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mark -

Thanks for the comment.  Let&#039;s agree to disagree.

Speak to real doctors.

I was recently called to jury duty on a med mal case in which the person had not experienced any damages.  They were probably called by some ambulance chaser who convinced them to &quot;go for the gold&quot;.

I also know a local doctor who saved someone&#039;s life in the emergency room.  They did not earn a penny from the work because the person did not have insurance.  They recommended seeing a doctor every 3 months to make sure the issue did not again arise.

The woman did not follow their instructions, and 2 years later, the woman is suing them for med mal.

Thank you for the comment but let&#039;s agree to disagree on this one...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mark -</p>
<p>Thanks for the comment.  Let&#8217;s agree to disagree.</p>
<p>Speak to real doctors.</p>
<p>I was recently called to jury duty on a med mal case in which the person had not experienced any damages.  They were probably called by some ambulance chaser who convinced them to &#8220;go for the gold&#8221;.</p>
<p>I also know a local doctor who saved someone&#8217;s life in the emergency room.  They did not earn a penny from the work because the person did not have insurance.  They recommended seeing a doctor every 3 months to make sure the issue did not again arise.</p>
<p>The woman did not follow their instructions, and 2 years later, the woman is suing them for med mal.</p>
<p>Thank you for the comment but let&#8217;s agree to disagree on this one&#8230;</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Health Care Reform &#8220;Two-Step&#8221; by Mark Baird</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark Baird</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Oct 2009 03:18:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>85 percent of Americans say we need some form of tort reform. If that is the case then why do these people award such &quot;large&quot; amounts. Something smells. Could it be a campaign by the Chamber of Commerce? Could it be the med mal premiums are the result of insurance company investments?

The people that sit on juries and the judges all must be idiots.

Judges have more knowledge of the civil jury system than anyone.
In a recent survey:

    * Ninety-one percent believe the system is in good condition
      needing, at best, only minor work.
    * Only 1 percent of the judges who responded gave the jury
      system low marks.
    * Judges have great faith in juries to solve complicated
      issues.
    * Ninety-six percent said they agree with jury verdicts most
      or all of the time.
    * Nine of 10 judges said jurors show considerable understanding
      of legal issues involved in the cases they hear.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>85 percent of Americans say we need some form of tort reform. If that is the case then why do these people award such &#8220;large&#8221; amounts. Something smells. Could it be a campaign by the Chamber of Commerce? Could it be the med mal premiums are the result of insurance company investments?</p>
<p>The people that sit on juries and the judges all must be idiots.</p>
<p>Judges have more knowledge of the civil jury system than anyone.<br />
In a recent survey:</p>
<p>    * Ninety-one percent believe the system is in good condition<br />
      needing, at best, only minor work.<br />
    * Only 1 percent of the judges who responded gave the jury<br />
      system low marks.<br />
    * Judges have great faith in juries to solve complicated<br />
      issues.<br />
    * Ninety-six percent said they agree with jury verdicts most<br />
      or all of the time.<br />
    * Nine of 10 judges said jurors show considerable understanding<br />
      of legal issues involved in the cases they hear.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Health Care Reform &#8220;Two-Step&#8221; by Mark Baird</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark Baird</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Oct 2009 03:15:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Following is a GAO report on medical malpractice and could not find any evidence to substantiate the claims of lawsuits impacting health care costs, access to health care or defensive medicine (with one possible lose connection relating to OBGYN). But of course you will not see this report on any media outlet swinging left or right.

http://www.gao.gov/new.items/d03836.pdf

Remember the CBO report regarding the cost of a single payer system that we all grasped to support our arguments against a single payer system…

Well, there is the CBO report which had this to say about tort reform:

“But even large savings in premiums can have only a small direct impact on health care spending–private or governmental–because malpractice costs account for less than 2 percent of that spending.”

http://www.cbo.gov/doc.cfm?index=4968&amp;type=0#t3

And of course there is Tillinghast-Towers Perrin (one of the largest in the world that provides risk management for the insurance and reinsurance industry).

According to the actuarial consulting firm Towers Perrin, medical malpractice tort costs were $30.4 billion in 2007, the last year for which data are available. We have a more than a $2 trillion health care system. That puts litigation costs and malpractice insurance at 1 to 1.5 percent of total medical costs. That’s a rounding error. Liability isn’t even the tail on the cost dog. It’s the hair on the end of the tail.

Of that 1 to 1.5 percent what portion of that is “frivolous”?

http://www.towersperrin.com/tp/getwebcachedoc?webc=USA/2008/200811/2008_tort_costs_trends.pdf (Page 10)

And then of course the report from Towers Perrin that states that the total tort cost in the US is 2% of the GDP. What percentage of that is “frivolous” and of that percentage what percentage is “frivolous” corporate lawsuits. So how much are “frivolous” lawsuits driving up the cost of everything? Maybe less than 2 cents on the dollar or maybe even less the 1 cent on the dollar?
http://www.towersperrin.com/tp/getwebcachedoc?webc=USA/2008/200811/2008_tort_costs_trends.pdf</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Following is a GAO report on medical malpractice and could not find any evidence to substantiate the claims of lawsuits impacting health care costs, access to health care or defensive medicine (with one possible lose connection relating to OBGYN). But of course you will not see this report on any media outlet swinging left or right.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.gao.gov/new.items/d03836.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.gao.gov/new.items/d03836.pdf</a></p>
<p>Remember the CBO report regarding the cost of a single payer system that we all grasped to support our arguments against a single payer system…</p>
<p>Well, there is the CBO report which had this to say about tort reform:</p>
<p>“But even large savings in premiums can have only a small direct impact on health care spending–private or governmental–because malpractice costs account for less than 2 percent of that spending.”</p>
<p><a href="http://www.cbo.gov/doc.cfm?index=4968&amp;type=0#t3" rel="nofollow">http://www.cbo.gov/doc.cfm?index=4968&amp;type=0#t3</a></p>
<p>And of course there is Tillinghast-Towers Perrin (one of the largest in the world that provides risk management for the insurance and reinsurance industry).</p>
<p>According to the actuarial consulting firm Towers Perrin, medical malpractice tort costs were $30.4 billion in 2007, the last year for which data are available. We have a more than a $2 trillion health care system. That puts litigation costs and malpractice insurance at 1 to 1.5 percent of total medical costs. That’s a rounding error. Liability isn’t even the tail on the cost dog. It’s the hair on the end of the tail.</p>
<p>Of that 1 to 1.5 percent what portion of that is “frivolous”?</p>
<p><a href="http://www.towersperrin.com/tp/getwebcachedoc?webc=USA/2008/200811/2008_tort_costs_trends.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.towersperrin.com/tp/getwebcachedoc?webc=USA/2008/200811/2008_tort_costs_trends.pdf</a> (Page 10)</p>
<p>And then of course the report from Towers Perrin that states that the total tort cost in the US is 2% of the GDP. What percentage of that is “frivolous” and of that percentage what percentage is “frivolous” corporate lawsuits. So how much are “frivolous” lawsuits driving up the cost of everything? Maybe less than 2 cents on the dollar or maybe even less the 1 cent on the dollar?<br />
<a href="http://www.towersperrin.com/tp/getwebcachedoc?webc=USA/2008/200811/2008_tort_costs_trends.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.towersperrin.com/tp/getwebcachedoc?webc=USA/2008/200811/2008_tort_costs_trends.pdf</a></p>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Oct 2009 15:12:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>God alone knows whether it is Obama&#039;s Health Care Reform or Obama&#039;s Health Scare Reform.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>God alone knows whether it is Obama&#8217;s Health Care Reform or Obama&#8217;s Health Scare Reform.</p>
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		<description>and Carson Palmer too...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>and Carson Palmer too&#8230;</p>
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		<description>He is good. Is he worth the money? The Giants paid him the big bucks so I guess so. Time will tell. http://bobbygee.wordpress.com/</description>
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