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It’s time for individual sports records to take a backseat…

Posted by TopOfTheThread on February 22, 2009

Regarding team sports such as baseball, football, hockey, soccer — only:

As fans, we have been pushed to say

  • Who cares about Barry Bonds, or Hank Aaron having the most home runs
  • Who cares about Roger Clemens having 350 wins and over 4,000 strikeouts
  • Who cares that Mark McGuire beat out Sammy Sosa in the 1998 Roger Maris home run chase
  • So what — Alex Rodriguez has 500 plus home runs and counting…..

Cheating has taken place and will always take place.

Focusing on team records is, at least, an equal playing field (no pun intended). Think about it.

A-Rod recently admitted using steroids from 2001 – 2003.  Let’s assume that at least 104 players used performance enhancing drugs during that era. Who won the World Series from 2001 – 2003 (Arizona Diamondbacks,   Anaheim Angels, Florida Marlins). Fine.

So we can assume that at LEAST 100 of the 700 major league players “cheated” using performance enhancing drugs.  For round numbers, that’s 14% of the players.  Let’s assume there is an equal distribution of  “cheaters”. 14% of the Diamondbacks cheated. 14% of the Angels cheated. And 14% of the Marlins cheated.

Continuing, 14% of the NY Yankees, NY Mets, and Boston Red Sox also cheated, and did NOT win the World Series.

As a fan, I have no problem with it.  Those seasons were entertaining and fun to watch.  It is an equal playing field because all the teams and players probably had access to the same performance enhancing drugs. Teams made decisions. Individuals made decisions. That was THAT era.

When the rules were set outlawing steriods, the number probably went from 14% to 2% (a guess).  Again, the cheaters were probably evenly distributed amongst the league.

So all the teams and players probably had a representative sample of cheaters.

As new drugs come on the scene, everyone will have access to them. New masking agents come on the scene, everyone will have access to them. It’s illegal but fair.

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The same holds true for football.  As time as gone on, steriods/HGH testing has gotten tougher. People still use then and there is probably an equal distribution amongst the teams and players.

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This may seem like bizarre logic, but it makes sense for the “team results”. Of course it does not help the individual records that are affected by this cheating.

I know it’s not realistic, but perhaps we should come up with an alternative to “individual records”. Perhaps we should discuss using a word like “highlights”.

One of the “highlights” of the 1998 season was McGuire and Sosa competing to hit the most home runs… I know,I know, it’s weak…

(photo nflheadline.com gain-weight-muscle-fast.com)

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(Cheating in sports) Give me Barry Bonds on steroids any day!

Posted by TopOfTheThread on June 14, 2008

Do we realize the magnitude of what ex-NBA referee Donaghy is saying? If the NBA influenced the outcome of playoff games, this is devastating! (If this is true, perhaps wrestling’s Vince McMahon should take over for NBAtopofthethread.com blog Commissioner David Stern)

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As sports fans, all we ask is players give it their “all” and want to win.

There were, and always will be, cheaters. Cheating is wrong.

  1. Cheating to gain an advantage. A Problem.
  2. Cheating to lose. A Bigger problem.
  3. League involvement in cheating. An even BIGGER problem.

(Alleged) Examples of cheating to gain an advantage…

  • Barry Bonds, Sammy Sosa, Rafael Palmero, Jason Giambi, Albert Belle (players) – allegedly used steroids human growth hormone, performance enhancing drugs to gain an advantage…
  • Gaylord Perry, Mike Scott, Joe Niekro (players) – spit balls, scuffing, doctoring the baseball to give it movement and to gain an advantage…
  • Bill Bellichick – (coach, team) Spy-gate – The NFL’s New England Patriots break the rules filming other teams and their coaches to gain an advantage…
  • Ben Johnson, Marion Jones, Tim Montgomery (olympic athetes) – used performance enhancing drugs to gain an advantage

Cheating. Wrong. Wanting to win. Right.

(Alleged) Examples of cheating to lose…

  • Eight members of the 1919 Chicago franchise were banned from baseball for throwing (intentionally losing) games, giving the victory to the Cincinnati Reds.
  • Boxers have often been accused of taking dives. There were multiple instances of George Foreman opponents taking dives.( http://www.randlemanland.com/fix.html )

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Tim Donaghy, the NBA referee said he made NBA bets for four years, even wagering on games he worked. He also admitted recommending bets to high-stakes gamblers and collecting $5,000 if his picks hit.

Donaghy is now accusing the NBA of pressuring referees to influence playoff series.

He is a small time person scrambling to get a shorter sentence, but, if this turns out to be true, it will be devastating to the NBA and professional sports.

A league influencing the outcome of games. I, the sports fan, don’t want to hear it

I would much rather have Barry Bonds, trying hard and using steroids, than teams throwing games or leagues influencing outcomes.

Where is a sports fan to turn?

We need sports. We need to believe in the competition. We can’t start questioning every little thing that the “fix was on”… A missed free throw… A missed putt… An umpire blowing a call…

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Note: While we’re on the subject, there is something fishy about the (potential Triple Crown Winner) Big Brown’s Belmont Stakes Race. Was the horse held back because they already had guaranteed money, and, if the horse was hurt or worse during the race, they would be risking the money. Hmmmm….

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Barry Bonds, et al, and Additional Repercussions of Performance Enhancing Drugs Use (Dara Torres)

Posted by TopOfTheThread on May 10, 2008

Dara Torress, 9-time Olympic medalist, 4-time Olympian, attempting to make her 5th Olympics at age 41. This is a hard working swimmer who has earned medals, and set a new American Swim record at age 41.

She is now a mother and has strategically trained and continued improving at an age when most athletes have long retired.Dara Torres, 41 year old Olympic Swimmer, with child

And, of course in this day and age, the whispers have started… It’s nothing that Dara has done. She does not exhibit any physical symptoms of drug use.. no acne… no enlarged muscles… anger… rages…

But, ever since Barry Bonds, Joses Canseco, Mark Mcguire, etc…. it is the easy route to accuse someone of cheating.

Dara has offered to take every test on a regular basis. WHY SHOULD SHE? This is absolutely no indication she has done anything wrong? She is being totally above board… taking the high road.

I guess anytime anyone does an out-of-the-ordinary athletic feat, they will be accused of cheating.

  • Tiger Woods and John Daly hit the ball further than anyone else… HGH… Drug test please!
  • Cal Ripken played in 2632 consecutive games… HGH… Drug test please!
  • Javier Sotomayor (Cuba) is both the indoor and outdoor world record holder in the high jump 8 feet and 8 feet ½ inch), respectively… HGH… Drug test please!

Whatever happened to innocent until proven guilty?

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